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Poll: Remove Reform count and Allen bottles (13 member(s) have cast votes)

Poll for removing Reform count and Allen bottles

  1. Yes, remove them = (eTO temper) (10 votes [76.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 76.92%

  2. No, keep them = (tTO temper) (3 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

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Remove reformcount and everything related to it!

 

So far I have been doing level 125 powerful set. I have done my pow. crest shield now. Took me days to get it.. So today I went tempering it and got RAGE! All that work for nothing! - Reform count (which can only be reseted using Allen bottles..) went to 0. Bottles cost 300 MS ea - 10 = 3k and 100 = 30k! To get good stats for your piece of equipment you must temper it about that 100 times.. and it also costs galders (166k in this situation) and 3x Chaos's Feathers.. Okay then when you get those equipment you have had hard time getting your equipment tempered you still want to refine it which costs also MS.
Reform makes things really hard for real.. if sum1 knows how to dodge it, plz share the info :s Or if there's no way to dodge reformcount, plz.. Remove it.. <.< All that hard work for nothing.. I will stop playing this for a while now for real.. I tought it would be like it was in eTO..


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Well sorry if I didn't tell the thing clearly enough - I was tired when I wrote this post xD So I would like to have tempering like it was in eTO! = Tempering stones, CFs, galder payment and all that stuff.. Just get rid of Allen bottles.. :( It's a way too expensive tbh.. and if you want for example pow. crest shield which has (dp 125~750) to be 700+ you will more likely to have temper it 50~100 times (or then I was just unlucky in eTO?)
 

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Err.

 

eTO had tempering, allens bottle and reform count no?

It doesn't take 100 times lol xD You're probably just really unlucky or greedy with stats. I'd be happy with anything thats higher than my original equips.

Chaos feathers aren't too hard to come by. I get a million of them from card ID and you can buy it from other players as well.

 

This is a silly suggestion imo >:


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I agree on removing this, I hate it too. It wasn't like this back in eTO. Not to mention we had allan's bottles in mega shop for 300k before and GMs removed it, I suggested to bring them back but I've never got an answer for that. And this system is not for every equips, on some items you can reset the counter by relogging... but it does not work on most of my stuff -> amelie 210 set

 

EDIT: well I meant for only reform counts, I love tempering :o


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I have to approve this message.

 

How long must I suffer tempering this Stone Sword until something good arises? 1 time? 10? 100?

No one can possibly say.

BAN REFORMS! BAN TEMPERING GEMS! GET RID OF THE OPPRESSIVE TEMPERING SYSTEM!

 

Nah, seriously dude. I can agree we don't need limits on tempering but we don't need to dispose of everything related to it.


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Why was reform count added again?



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I thought it reset after you relogged?


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Why was reform count added again?

I think it was to prevent abuse of it, I can't remember precisely.


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I think it's because we're based on tTO and tTO has reform counts.

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I agree on removing this, I hate it too. It wasn't like this back in eTO. Not to mention we had allan's bottles in mega shop for 300k before and GMs removed it, I suggested to bring them back but I've never got an answer for that. And this system is not for every equips, on some items you can reset the counter by relogging... but it does not work on most of my stuff -> amelie 210 set

 

EDIT: well I meant for only reform counts, I love tempering :o

Yes! I love tempering too but hate the reform count, that's what I meant too xD



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Well I didn't mean to get rid of temperin/tempering stones etc. I just want it to be like it was in eTO! >.< eTO Tempering for us, plz.. :D



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Im with you on this those allen bottles arent as cheap as i thought they were.

 

Remove it or let item girl sell it for a cheaper price



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Ouch. GMWan puts Allen's Bottle for sale @ Item Girl in mega Shop a long time ago, but it never appears on Item Girl's list of items for sale. Then we were told the reform count reset itself by logging off and logging in again, so we never bothered with this anymore, and no one ever complains about it. Anyway, I'll remind GMWan to try again to include Allen's Bottle with Item Girl in Mega Shop again for next maintenance.


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I have to approve this message.

 

How long must I suffer tempering this Stone Sword until something good arises? 1 time? 10? 100?

No one can possibly say.

BAN REFORMS! BAN TEMPERING GEMS! GET RID OF THE OPPRESSIVE TEMPERING SYSTEM!

 

Nah, seriously dude. I can agree we don't need limits on tempering but we don't need to dispose of everything related to it.

Yes sry, I didn't rly mean that xD I was just so annoyed because the tempering system of this server was such a surprise and I was 100% sure about what I'm going to do.. but then reform count + Allen bottles changed everything.. Sorry..



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Ouch. GMWan puts Allen's Bottle for sale @ Item Girl in mega Shop a long time ago, but it never appears on Item Girl's list of items for sale. Then we were told the reform count reset itself by logging off and logging in again, so we never bothered with this anymore, and no one ever complains about it. Anyway, I'll remind GMWan to try again to include Allen's Bottle with Item Girl in Mega Shop again for next maintenance.

Well I wonder how the reform count of my shield doesen't reset even if I keep logging off and on? O.o But nice to hear that you are working on better tempering system <3 :3



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Ouch. GMWan puts Allen's Bottle for sale @ Item Girl in mega Shop a long time ago, but it never appears on Item Girl's list of items for sale. Then we were told the reform count reset itself by logging off and logging in again, so we never bothered with this anymore, and no one ever complains about it. Anyway, I'll remind GMWan to try again to include Allen's Bottle with Item Girl in Mega Shop again for next maintenance.

Oh sorry, I thought I was just being ignored. Anyway great news for us then *-*


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