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[Keyos]

Paula breaks literally EVERYTHING if we merge her to our current server so it's not possible.

[Flannel]

You could move all the characters from rTO to this new server, maybe scanning people's account to see what they have and how much MS was invested on it, I'm pretty sure that I would join this server if my others characters could be transfered too, even with guild bug, we could "get out of the box" and start new friendships and have open sotial relations out of our little world, guilds can isolate groups of people that usually don't talk to outsiders, just with their guildmates, to be honest, there's no reason for guilds in TO, since we don't benefit from contents related to this, like, there's no guild wars or anything like that, GvG isn't appealing as it is on other MMMORPGs, like Ragnarok for example, that have a weekly war that grants special rewards for siege conquerors, access to exclusive dungeons and things like that, GvG here is a more like a hobby that gives you nothing, we should only focus on PvP parties, PvP events, things like that, maybe make a 4th class (just recolor the outfits from 3rd class), customize the server even more than the previous one, make it interesting, since Paula will be the big hype, like a server with just one class, make the other classes more visually appealing,and with new skills (for example, sheep forth class can't wear myushop dress only their unique clothing, a new skill could be same as Staff of Thunder but red instead of blue with higher damage and a debuff atribute, Buffalo 4th could have new single target skill with multiple hits but with even more hits, like a super combo skill, foxes could use dark jutsu magic, dragons could transform in a giant dragon just like Spicy but with different colors, Bunny could have like a super dash that hit many foes in an area, like running from target to target like a lightning bolt, exploding in contact with them, Lions could have a passive skill that could block enemies attacks with high chances I don't know, making them a threat in PvP, raccoons could use ALL skills in meta form, and get crazy speed movement and cats too, like, transformation will be more overpower than ever! you could even use their meta sprites to represent the new class, like they changed for ever and turned into perma monsters! (recolored to make them different from the normal meta state, maybe reddish racoon monster and black cat monster) These ar ejust some opinions, would be wonderful to customize the server totally, introducing new stuff just using what we have but changing a little bit.

1. Please learn how to separate your sentences. It's murder to read for someone who's dyslexic and/or autistic.

 

2. From what I've gathered, custom skills are not (currently) possible. So it won't be happening anytime soon, if at all.

 

3. New jobs are not gonna happen, because not only was there a lot of issues with the original game devs even MAKING 3rd jobs, but the sheer amount of work to make a new job class would pretty much make it nearly impossible. Plus, 3rd jobs don't even have a respectable amount of skills to even call them complete - likely they had more planned skill-wise but never released it, especially considering they added new skills to 2nd/3rd jobs between 3rd jobs' release and the day the servers all globally shut down.

 

4. Creating new classes also requires a full spritesheet, which can be very difficult to make, and may look completely out-of-place even when completed. Similar to how Paula looks out of place compared to the other characters, the new spritesheet may look even MORE out of place.

 

5. Even if 2 new spritesheets is made for a 4th class for every character, you need to code the game files to reference to those spritesheets at the EXACT time it has to be used. Meaning there's very, very, very, very little room for error.

 

tldr: Not possible, and most attempts will likely lead to a walking EE that cannot be fixed properly without removing the source of the EE, which will piss people off because they'd be losing their characters.

[Celestica]

You could move all the characters from rTO to this new server, maybe scanning people's account to see what they have and how much MS was invested on it, I'm pretty sure that I would join this server if my others characters could be transfered too, even with guild bug, we could "get out of the box" and start new friendships and have open sotial relations out of our little world, guilds can isolate groups of people that usually don't talk to outsiders, just with their guildmates, to be honest, there's no reason for guilds in TO, since we don't benefit from contents related to this, like, there's no guild wars or anything like that, GvG isn't appealing as it is on other MMMORPGs, like Ragnarok for example, that have a weekly war that grants special rewards for siege conquerors, access to exclusive dungeons and things like that, GvG here is a more like a hobby that gives you nothing, we should only focus on PvP parties, PvP events, things like that, maybe make a 4th class (just recolor the outfits from 3rd class), customize the server even more than the previous one, make it interesting, since Paula will be the big hype, like a server with just one class, make the other classes more visually appealing,and with new skills (for example, sheep forth class can't wear myushop dress only their unique clothing, a new skill could be same as Staff of Thunder but red instead of blue with higher damage and a debuff atribute, Buffalo 4th could have new single target skill with multiple hits but with even more hits, like a super combo skill, foxes could use dark jutsu magic, dragons could transform in a giant dragon just like Spicy but with different colors, Bunny could have like a super dash that hit many foes in an area, like running from target to target like a lightning bolt, exploding in contact with them, Lions could have a passive skill that could block enemies attacks with high chances I don't know, making them a threat in PvP, raccoons could use ALL skills in meta form, and get crazy speed movement and cats too, like, transformation will be more overpower than ever! you could even use their meta sprites to represent the new class, like they changed for ever and turned into perma monsters! (recolored to make them different from the normal meta state, maybe reddish racoon monster and black cat monster) These ar ejust some opinions, would be wonderful to customize the server totally, introducing new stuff just using what we have but changing a little bit.

I doubt they would be able to implement a 4th job for every class. It's just a lot of hard, painful and annoying work because you have to create each individual sprite, build custom coding/sprites for the new skills and who knows what else is necessary to make them work. While a new '4th job' class could be great in theory, I think they need to tackle one issue at a time with the server. Since Paula's riddled with bugs still, that's probably the number one priority.

[TimertheBunneh]

Paula breaks literally EVERYTHING if we merge her to our current server so it's not possible.

It seems that this was overlooked. As much as this sucks, it is unfortunately what we must deal with. We may never know how Ntreev did it on k/jTO.

 

As for "4th jobs", new classes, and all that, it's impossible. Spritesheets are one thing, but coding new jobs/classes is quite the task. Remember that Ntreev is a full-on company--rTO is run by a very small group of people, including a single coder. To put such a thing on a single person would be a nightmare. In other words--no. No 4th jobs, no new classes. I am shooting that down before more people ask.

[pokota]

Presumably Ntreev was able to do it on k/jTO because they still had both the source code and original tools at the time. Plus they may still have had some of the original devs on hand as well.

[codeeternity]

Personally, I would play! As a new player I feel difficulty to progress when compared to such a high lvled population. ( We need more events to attract newcomers.) A new server would be a nice chance to attract new players like me.

[Seulgi]

Are people not really that interested in this?

 

Not many people voting here.

 

Aran, can you please put this on the front page so people will actually see it?

 

This is actually an important poll so i'm trying to figure out why it's not

[MrSlaughter]

Personally, I would play! As a new player I feel difficulty to progress when compared to such a high lvled population. ( We need more events to attract newcomers.) A new server would be a nice chance to attract new players like me.

 

If there is anything you need help with, let me know! I can help

[Zen]

C'mon.. 
You guys are really reading too far into what I said! 

We're not exactly sure how it'd all work, that's why I put ??? beside one of them (because we're still currently unsure). 
When we did test servers before, some accounts would work and some wouldn't.

 

We're also unsure of if it would carry the progress back into rTO. I didn't even think of it at the time.  

I just wrote this up in 10 minutes or so, haha. 

 

That's why we wanted fellow Tricksters' opinions, because you have great ideas! 

[Zen]

 Seems like Zen is talking about a new server to start fresh and not a test server (which implies that progress can be lost).

 

Yeah, I was just told that it was a second server.

We're not sure though. Maybe if we have enough people interested, it could just be a test server and have Paula added to rTO. 

 

The ??? was meant because I was unsure if we'd be able to carry over the accounts. However, doing one thing on one account would not affect the other server's account. 

That's how testing normally goes! Like Overwatch with main + PTR. 

[codeeternity]

If there is anything you need help with, let me know! I can help

Thx a lot buddy

 

Feel free to add me: Sayori

[Flannel]

bump

[Manolo]

So, it's a been awhile, are they working to implement the Paula server yet?

[Nahiko]

Yeah i'd try it for fun, probably get to around lvl 200-300. Would i play it over the regular server? probably not

[Solvluna]

It'll just be a temporary server, right? It'll be taken down once you guys get Paula to work on the main server?

Doesn't seem like it would be worth the trouble just to let us play as Paula.

 

Maybe it'll be easier to find a way to import all our characters to a new server where Paula works

instead of trying to get her to work on this old one?

[Manolo]

I already quit the game months ago, my dream was to be able to play with Paula, but it seems to me that they already gave up, and they act rude if you ask for Paula, last time I asked they were very agressive, so this project is not going to happen, R.I.P. Paula.

[Keyos]

I already quit the game months ago, my dream was to be able to play with Paula, but it seems to me that they already gave up, and they act rude if you ask for Paula, last time I asked they were very agressive, so this project is not going to happen, R.I.P. Paula.

Paula is still under development , it's filled with bugs and it takes time to fix such bug and make everything work properly.

[Seulgi]

Paula is still under development , it's filled with bugs and it takes time to fix such bug and make everything work properly.

 

Nothing bad towards you Keyos, I know this isn't your fault. BUT i know me and half the server are tired of the vague responses regarding Paula. Almost every new year we get a post from aran saying "sorry no Paula this year try again next year".

 

We were Practically teased with a test server and it wasn't even posted on the front page... despite me suggesting it 4 months ago.

 

I'm sure a lot of the community would appreciate hearing whats been fixed with her buggy build every once and awhile.

[Solvluna]

Occasional progress updates would be nice.

 

I've been playing on a server where Paula has been playable for a while now. GMWan seems to be running it and it's currently in open beta.

If you don't mind a bit of lag and all the Thai text, you can find it here: http://trickster.in.th/

The website is beautiful, and it has the new login ui and character selection screen.

Spoiler

I took some screenshots! 

Server hasn't been updated in a while though.

[hovado]

Beware of Mermaid Palace Field 4!