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Good night tricksters . I would like some tips about the build for my guardian

1 My guardian is focused on support
2 My guardian is Legendary
3 My guardian is Krusef


What rune 2job buy? which suport skills to debuff and buff are recommended ?

Protect rune or multi is better?
I'm using that skills in moment:

Power: Lucky breaker, Sense breaker
Magic: Cure , Rust
Sense: stone striker( required to use armor breaker)
charm: Skunk pouch , Magic Meltdown

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Get Skunk+ Shield breaker(Sense rune). You will be able to kill anything



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Except CT's bosses because Shield Breaker dont work on them o3o

Also which job are you? Because getting skills like shield breaker is useless if you are a magic type =/


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I'm a gambler full hv  focused in metamorphosis



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gambler full HV and a support guardian?

 

it doesn't sound like theres much of an option, try protect rune though for better cure spam.



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bought sense  rune+ protect rune

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Shockwave augmented with Guard Break (Power Rune) is a good option if you decide to get a second guardian - the CT bosses are not immune to the effects of Guard Break.

 

If you do take a power rune, go ahead and get Faint to supplement that - even though CT bosses can't be fainted or skunked, pretty much everything else in the game is stymied by a guardian with that combination.



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i think charm rune has a better PVM potential, aoe skunk can be spammed, well thats if the guardian can learn it.

bossing with guardian still has a better effect with sense rune due to shield breaker, although not all bosses are affected by it.

while power rune's faint+guard break sounds incredibly nice, guard break doesn't affect skill's miss rate which mitigates it's usefulness somewhat.

 

faint+guard break though is incredibly powerful when paired with a gladiator's chi+zerk combo, i had managed to down odiena in 2seconds back in eTO due to it.

 

 

on the notes on guardians, do we have a list of skills a guardian can learn? that would be quite helpful for most people.



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Guardians cannot learn Deadly Funk (the AoE Skunk Pouch). 

As far as 2nd Job skills go, the following are marked on the Skillcard Info as "Can be used/equipped by guardian" (whether or not it's true or practical is another matter):
 
CHARM:
Volley Kick, Siren Song
 
POWER:
Dash, Uppercut, Guard Break, Quad Punch, Counter Punch, Tetra Punch, Faint, Lacerator, Piercing Wave, Aura of Haste, Tidal Slash, Tempest Strike, Blazing Strike
 
MAGIC:
All Elemental Seals, Drip Bomb, Electro Attack, Whirlwind Blaze, Cleaving Terra, Wind Blade, Water Web, Electro Shock, Icey Shackles, Thunderbolt, Scorching Earth, Deadly Fen, Tornado Blast, Incinerate, Summon Boulder, Shard of the Glacier, Botulism Cloud (why?), Razor Gale, Phoenix Rising, Tesla Field, Both Pacts, Wicked Flame, Hinder Snare, Hellfire, Arrow of Light, Dark Lance, Dark Distractor, Light Wave, Radiant Strike

 

SENSE:

Lucky Fist, Lock On, Shield Breaker

 

I'll work on a formal Guardian Skills Guide this weekend; for now this is just a quick list of 2nd job skills that may be learned by a guardian. And I definitely need to know if any of these aren't actually learnable. Also also, I need to know what the max number of skills in a type any single guardian can have - if it's 8 like I think it is (I've only ever seen as much as 6, and my personal max is 5 with Zabini), that opens up some otherwise impossibru combinations due to prerequisites. I can personally check Power skills up to a depth of 3 prerequisites (so I should be able to check Tetra Punch but I don't think I can check Blazing Strike), so if other players can check other skills that would be great.

 

EDIT HEY LISTEN: If there's a 2nd job skill that guardians can learn but is not on this list, please post a screenshot of your guardian knowing it. 



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hmm, i wonder if guardian could use dark magic's withering disease, it would've been quite nice as it'd shut-off mob's cure spam, possibly even boss's.



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I don't see it on the list, what are the prerequisites? I don't think Guardians can learn 3rd Job skills regardless of runage so if it's a Dark Lord exclusive it probably can't.



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withering disease is 2nd-job, the per-requisite is dark pact and gravity crush lvl10.

 

http://wiki.ggftw.co...thering_Disease

the effect is literally stopping any form of health regeneration.



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Hmm... I didn't see it for sale from Magician Louie, can someone with the appropriate rune check to see if this is a skill guardians can learn? As far as I've seen guardians can't learn Gravity Crush so I don't think this is one they can learn either but we need to be sure either way.



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yeah, it would be a pity if it couldn't be learned, its one of the most useful spells to take out those annoying mobs that spams cure.



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I just wanted to say how jealous I am of your Legendary Krusef  :wub:







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