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Players, I need your help.

 

I need clear and detailed explanation on the Smelting function and Expander (not sure if it's called Expander or Expansion) function that are associated with the new Chaos Tower update.

 

GM and coder want to code these functions and put them on website, but they don't know what these functions are, how they work, what items are involved, the point system, etc.

 

I also do not know these functions because they were never introduced in Fantasia where I came from before.

 

So I would appreciate if players who know about these functions can explain what they are, how they work, the NPCs, the items, etc.

 

If we want to make these functions available in our server, please help.

 

Thank you.


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All I can give you is this thread on ggftw

 

Anyone knows this Kale15 guy from ggftw forums? Maybe we could contact him or something. I stalked his profile but didn't find anything useful ._. His last log in was on 2014-03-06 tho'


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http://www.trickster...dex.php?メルティング

 

http://www.trickster...hp?装備#expansion

 

All I could find :x


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Thank you. Haha. Those JP pages. I can't read them.

 

I was wondering if any players have had experience with these functions before and can tell the steps involved, the items allowed for smelting, items not allowed (e.g., are legendary uniques, absolute uniques, pets, fashion, forms allowed?). How are the points for each item calculated? (Actually there is a formula for the points).

 

Just anything that help clarify the whole thing further; that's what I'm looking for.

 

Coder and GM are working on this and I thought it would be nice if we can have this for our server; those extra equips we have from myshop that are 2 slots, for example, and are useless, could be disposed of beneficially using smelting.



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http://web.archive.o..._synthesis.aspx

 

http://web.archive.o...em_melting.aspx

 

some sort of guide (Korean)

http://web.archive.o...&BoardNo=236445


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Found this page, japanese too :x http://silentfeel.jugem.jp/?eid=1175

 

Pictures:

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http://web.archive.o..._synthesis.aspx

 

According to google translate and this article Old equipments, Absolute Unique and Form items cannot be melted and - if I get it right - the equipments whose slots have been expanded?

 

http://web.archive.o...em_melting.aspx

 

some sort of guide (Korean)

http://web.archive.o...&BoardNo=236445

I think it explains the point system thing on the pictures, too bad I can't google translate those xD

 

 

Edit: Btw, I can quickly put together a picture guide based off of the pages above with the actual english name of the things because I understood the basics of this system and I have some theories about the points too but since I don't understand korean it would be nice if someone could translate the pictures above xD


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One trick I learned was copying the page link and putting it into google translate.

This will translate the page for you.

But the pictures won't be translated.

I could try and translate the pictures since I can read Korean.

But I'd still have to use google translate since my Korean is pretty crappy. 8D;.


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Professor_Komby_auto.gifSmelting

Originally in kTO this system was performed by Professor Komby who developed this new method.

The goal of this system: to get 41c740c2.gif Nate's Expander Potion or 504ae047.gif Nate's Greater Expander Potion which can expand your equipment's slots up to 4 or 5 at Compounder Nate. (I don't know the difference between the two potions)

 

You can get these potions from the Grade Melting Boxes (sorry, the picture says Smelting :'D). There are 9 type of these boxes, the 1st Grade Melting Boxes are contain best and 9th Grade Melting Boxes contain the worst items.

 

You'll get one of the items from the boxes listed below

1st Grade Melting Box:

Requiem Marble x1

Altiverse Thorny Rose Box x1

Nate's Expander Potion x1

Nate's Greater Expander Potion x1

 

2nd Grade Melting Box:

Requiem Marble  x1

Altiverse Twist Box  x1

Altiverse Thorny Rose Box  x1

Altiverse Maiden Queen Box  x1

Altiverse Crimson Box  x1

Nate's Expander Potion  x1

Nate's Greater Expander Potion  x1

1mil Galder Check  x1

10k Galder Coupon x1

5k Galder Coupon x1

 

3rd Grade Melting Box:

Stage 2 Requiem Box  x1

Stage 3 Requiem Box x1

Stage 4 Requiem Box x1

Stage 5 Requiem Box  x1

Stage 6 Requiem Box  x1

Requiem Marble  x1

Altiverse Box (any kind)  x1

Nate's Expander Potion  x1

Nate's Greater Expander Potion  x1

1mil Galder Check  x1

10k Galder Coupon  x1

5k Galder Coupon x1

 

4th Grade Melting Box:

Stage 3 Requiem Box  x1

Stage 4 Requiem Box  x1

Stage 5 Requiem Box  x1

Stage 6 Requiem Box  x1

Requiem Marble  x1

Altiverse Box (any kind)  x1

Nate's Expander Potion x1

Nate's Greater Expander Potion x1

2k Galder Coupon  x1

5k Galder Coupo x1

10k Galder Coupon x1

 

 

5th Grade Melting Box:

Stage Requiem Box (any kind) x1

Requiem Marble  x1

Altiverse Spiritual Box  x1

Altiverse Twist Box  x1

Altiverse Flash Bat Box  x1

Altiverse Thorny Rose Box  x1

Nate's Expander Potion

2k Galder Coupon  x1

5k Galder Coupo x1

10k Galder Coupon x1

 

6th Grade Melting Box:

Stage Requiem Box (any kind)  x1

Requiem Marble  x1

Altiverse Spiritual Box  x1

Altiverse Twist Box  x1

Nate's Expander Potion

Worldly Cure  x50

Twinkle Potion  x50

Holy Chaos Box  x1

Greater Chaos Box  x1

1k Galder Coupon x1

2k Galder Coupon x1

5k Galder Coupon x1

 

7th Grade Melting Box: 

Stage 1 Requiem Box  x1

Stage 2 Requiem Box x1

Nate's Expander Potion
Worldly Cure x35

Twinkle Potion x35

Bad Chaos Box  x1

Lousy Chaos Box x1

Decent Chaos Box  x1

Greater Chaos Box  x1

Holy Chaos Box  x1

1k Galder Coupon x1

2k Galder Coupon x1

 

8th Grade Melting Box:

Stage 1 Requiem Box  x1

Stage 2 Requiem Box x1

Nate's Expander Potion

Elixir Extract x35

Jewelry Potion x35

Worldly Cure x20

Twinkle Potion x20

Bad Chaos Box  x1

Lousy Chaos Box x1

Decent Chaos Box  x1

Greater Chaos Box  x1

Holy Chaos Box  x1

500 Galder Coupon x1

1k Galder Coupon  x1

2k Galder Coupon x1

 

9th Grade Melting Box:

Nate's Expander Potion

Elixir Extract x1

Jewelry Potion x1

Bad Chaos Box  x1

Decent Chaos Box x1

500 Galder Coupon x1

1k Galder Coupon x1

Compound Waste

 

You can get these boxes by smelting up to 5 equipments together. These EQs will be destroyed during the process so be careful (I tried to translate the windows below) The better the equip the better the points you can pull out of them

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Grade Melting Box points table:

9th grade melting box: 300 points or less
8th grade Melting Box: 301 ~ 500 points
7th grade melting box: 501 ~ 700 points
6th grade Melting Box: 701 ~ 900 points
5th grade melting box: 901 ~ 1200 points
4th grade Melting Box: 1201 ~ 1500 points
3rd grade Melting Box: 1501 ~ 1800 points
2nd grade Melting Box: 1801 ~ 2100 points
1st grade Melting box: 2100+ points

 

What cannot be melted:

- pets

- drills

- equips below lv30

- form items

- absolute unique

- I believe 'old equipment' refers to those EQs which haven't got any stars therefore pre-revo items (I guess)

 

Note: I will wait for Planty to translate the pictures from the korean guide maybe they were more clever than japanese wiki. Points are determined by the following things:

- stars

- pontetial %

- number of slots

- refine level?

 

This is all I could pull out of those pages :'D 


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Alchemist_Nate_auto.gifSlot Expanding

According to one of the sites Alchemist Nate has invented a new potion which could expand the number of slots on your equipment but due this potion is brand new and still unstable it could destroy your equip if the process is unsuccessful. The 2 potions:

41c740c2.gif Nate's Expander Potion

504ae047.gif Nate's Greater Expander Potion

Then again, I don't know the differences between the two potions.

 

Boss Uniques (Golden Sword, Blood Shield, etc.) can have up to 5 slots while the other 'normal' equips can have 4 slots max.

 

There are some assisting items (which could be bought from MyShop on the foreign servers) which gives you higher success rate and protects your equip from destruction:

Luck of Azoto - Increases the success rate, kind of elixir

Azoto of God - Increases the success rate better, kind of elixir

Hephaestus' Guardian Mark - Protects your equip from destruction

 

I don't know what these things do:

Nate's Synthetic Frame 75

Nate's Synthetic Frame 100

Edit: I think these synthetic frames are for normal compound since they were on the same page where they explaining Compound in general so maybe they have nothing to do with expanding (the description refers to the higher range anyway)

 

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Edit: added the second image >.<


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Thank you for the above information. I forgot about this until GM asks about it.



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Points are determined by the following things:

- stars

- pontetial %

- number of slots

- refine level?

 

Do you have the formula that incorporates these values?



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Do you have the formula that incorporates these values?

Sadly no, I didn't find any formulas on the whole internet only this list on the japanese wiki and I am not sure if refine level determines anything, google translate was a bit stupid at this part


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Okay, tyty, IGM, Coder & I greatly appreciate your help, Nariann. :)

 

GM & Coder has a formula; I just need to work it out based on the things you listed as point determinants above.



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I am happy to help ^^ and good to hear, I'm looking forward to this new system <3


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9th Grade Melting Box:

Nate's Expander Potion

Elixir Extract x1

Jewelry Potion x1

Bad Chaos Box  x1

Decent Chaos Box x1

500 Galder Coupon x1

1k Galder Coupon x1

Compound Waste

 

 

  I've open 200 9th Grade Melting box, and i didnt found the Akura of Nates.







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