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Many of you may recall when this server started. It started as a closed beta on July 15, 2013, then went into open beta on August 15, 2013. Since then, we have gone through a lot of things, and the server is still not perfect (is there ever anything that is absolutely perfect?); lots of work still needs to be done to improve the stability & the game environment. But we are still young, not even a year old; improvement work will continue.
 
The purpose of the server was to bring back a game to English-based players of Trickster Online who were left stranded when the North American English-based servers (eTO) were closed on February 27, 2013. [Of course later on, this closure was followed by the closure of kTO, tTO, jTO]. Thus, it was the intention of the server from the beginning to resemble eTO as much as possible.
 
In the beginning, this server received a lot of abuse; amongst the first groups of players to jump on to this private server were the hackers and the botters. These type of players are very damaging to the game, any game, because they unlevel the playing field, getting unfair playing advantage to themselves, and do damage to other players through account hacks, OP equips, and such.
 
In spite of wanting to become like eTO, the GMs did include things that could be considered as improvements over eTO. These include, amongst others:
  • Setting the MyShop points exchange rate to be 2x higher/better than in eTO (in rTO, US$100 = 250k MS pts; in eTO, US$100 = 125k MS pts)
  • Having the Auction House function that enables transfer of non-transferable items
  • Website compounding that allows same-type elixirs to be used + higher comp range + higher probability of high comps
  • Website pet compounding using hardants with the same properties as web comps for items
  • Website tempering that, although have bugs, still allows certain items to be tempered using gems that change ALL stats, instead of just one in game
  • Giving mileage points for MyShop donations, which enable donors to get mileage boxes that contain free items which otherwise would have to be bought from myshop
  • Include pink & amethyst elixirs inside the mileage boxes; items that were not available in eTO except during rare events
  • Giving VIP special status to donors [50% extra EXP/TM, 20% finding probability, 20% extra speed]
  • 300/600% EXP/TM boost for everyone
  • Giving bonus eggs to donors, which could be used to get 4G items
  • Putting PPDs and resurrection scrolls in Mega shop (no need to buy resurrection scrolls using myshop points anymore)
  • Make Nora Card Key unconsumable (so players don't have to keep buying it)
  • Making available some items from other servers (e.g., wings, Gros items, Fett Ravenwood & Enero Elisabeth pets, 4-slots head accessories & face masks, etc)  

 

The above items do not come free of bugs, but at least they are here whereas in eTO, we didn't get them.

 

However, this server is not meant just for donor players only (although accusations have been thrown at the GMs that they are greedy, that they overprice things, that the game is a pay-to-win game, and that this server will die just like eTO. [Regarding the death part, nothing last forever. Yes, eventually this server will die, but let's hope it's a long way off]).

 

What the GMs really want, in fact, is to provide a server for players who really love the game; players who play fairly; players who buy MyShop if they can afford it but do not have to buy if they can't. They play because they love the game, and their presence in the game & in the forum enrich the server through their good behaviour & positive input into it. 

 

Indeed, it is preferable to have players who play fair for the love of the game but do not donate as compared to players who play unfairly, donate, then demand, complain, whine, bash, attack, badmouth, troll, spread negativity about the game, server, GMs, mods, or other players.

 

So, GM Sky asks me to "please write down ideas that will make the game play better for non donors, especially long term players who love this game."

 

So, I am asking ideas from you. How can we make this game better? I don't guarantee every ideas will be implemented (there may be technology, manpower or financial limitations involved) but certainly we can look at the ideas and consider them in the future.

 

Please do not say things like "make MyShop prices cheaper/free." MyShop will always be there and donations are valued because the server will always needs maintenance, so donors are always valued. Also, please do not put impossible stuff like creating another system or feature for the game. 

 

Have a go. Thank you. 


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Thanks Aran, okay guys, go ahead and post your ideas. Make sure you read the guidelines above before posting ;)


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Here's an idea, maybe we can give those who reach second job for the first time a free 30 day myshop cape. Capes are fun to have and when you're the only one of your friends without one it makes you feel sad :c

 

 

Aran's Edit: Free red cape is given to players now as part of level up reward. The cape is not timed.


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Getting milege for myshop purchases, instead of donating.

 

Aran's Edit: Mileage points are awarded to donors only. For ms purchases, bonus eggs are awarded. Mileage points are now transferable between accounts. 


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Okay to be honest only couple of things you might wanna improve overall is some bosses are way too overdefended/Powered for Mages.
And secondly Compounding for non members (Ingame) is still a HUGE pain

 

 

Aran's Edit: Bosses will be kept the same (Aug 2014 time); compounding in game for anyone has always been a huge pain. even compounding on website still can be a huge pain.


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Let MyCamp Items be purchasable through galders. It gives no advantage to anyone and everyone wants this feature, including free players.

 

Instead of bringing back Gacha, you could use Wooden Boxes or GM Certificate Exchange for Gacha-exclusive items in eTO. It would give Events and GM Certificates a much needed boost in value.

 

 

Aran's edit:

Gacha is published on website now.

GM cert is used as prizes for events published by GM and is highly valuable as an exchange item for Universal Trickster Capes & other items at Rosemary in Mega Shop.

MyCamp items will continue to be purchased using MS.

Wooden Boxes ~ not yet. Something we may consider in the future.


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Here's an idea, maybe we can give those who reach second job for the first time a free 30 day myshop cape. Capes are fun to have and when you're the only one of your friends without one it makes you feel sad :c

I like this idea too. When I first started playing eTO I wanted a cape so badly, but it was almost unattainable for non-myshop users, unless we were talking about in-game capes such as poppuri.

 

I'd like to see in-game compounding for non-members the same quality as website compounding. Like above said, it's a huge pain for non-members and I see that as kind of unfair. Assuming these non-members are non-donors, they are already at a slight disadvantage, unable to get mileage boxes which contains many helpful elixirs/nates and unable to purchase enhanced compound items: myshop stones (unless they have accumulated myshop from auction house). I think in-game compounding with a randomized generator of the compound items' values that does NOT account for one's LK should exist :3. It seems like a far-fetched idea but I really hope you will think about it.

 

This isn't a new idea, but I really like how Ruby Boxes + their corresponding keys are, though quite rare, available for free for new users. I appreciate that and I am sure many others do as well; now everyone has an opportunity to get such adorable fuses and can get a profit out of it if they sell it for myshop points or galders. I absolutely wish you do this again in the future, with a novel set of cute items. c: 

(And it's not only Ruby Boxes of course, the past events were splendid like the Christmas Sephiria and Vinosh pets. <3)

 

Thanks for listening to the players, it means a lot to us

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10):

 

1. Website comp will always be better than in game comps. In game comps follow the original TO comp formulae; web comps are customised to rTO. (If too much tweaking is done for in game stuff, they may make the game unplayable; so we'd like to keep the formulae as is for in game comps).

 

2. Ruby Boxes ~ since then we have done Emerald Box 1 & 2 ~ perhaps we have overdone the free stuff gift because players told us to stop it; they get bored with the events.

 

 


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I like this idea too. When I first started playing eTO I wanted a cape so badly, but it was almost unattainable for non-myshop users, unless we were talking about in-game capes such as poppuri.

 

I'd like to see in-game compounding for non-members the same quality as website compounding. Like above said, it's a huge pain for non-members and I see that as kind of unfair. Assuming these non-members are non-donors, they are already at a slight disadvantage, unable to get mileage boxes which contains many helpful elixirs/nates and unable to purchase enhanced compound items: myshop stones (unless they have accumulated myshop from auction house). I think in-game compounding with a randomized generator that does NOT account for one's LK should exist :3. It seems like a far-fetched idea but I really hope you will think about it.

 

This isn't a new idea, but I really like how Ruby Boxes + their corresponding keys are, thought quite rare, available for free for new users. I appreciate that and I am sure many others do as well; now everyone has an opportunity to get such adorable fuses and can get a profit out of it if they sell it for myshop points or galders. I absolutely wish you do this again in the future, with a novel set of cute items. c: 

(And it's not only Ruby Boxes of course, the past events were splendid like the Christmas Sephiria and Vinosh pets. <3)

 

Thanks for listening to the players, it means a lot to us

 

Actually, I'd like an RGN that really accounts your LK (cause unlike the popular belief, LK has nothing to do with compounding)

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10): Yup, comps really does not have anything to do with LK. GM told me that. He tested it. It's just pure random luck irl.


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Actually, I'd like an RGN that really accounts your LK (cause unlike the popular belief, LK has nothing to do with compounding)

Oh wow, really! Haha, apologies then.

What does it account for, nothing? Is it just a biased system? 


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LK accounts for Critical strike chance, and Blocking an enemy's attack :)

 

No, I know that.  I was talking about the current in-game compounding system, how does it work?

 

Edit: Well, regardless if I'm wrong about the compound system, my point is that I'd like in-game compounding similar to website. (x Since you're already spending galders (a lot, depending on what you're compounding) and you're sort of gambling already, also adding the fact that if you don't have nate bottles, you're just stuck with what you have, I don't think it should be based on LK. Then many people would make LK sets just for this, and that seems like a hassle.. 

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10): We don't want to disturb/change/tweak in-game comps.


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Increasing drop rate of compound stones might be awesome for those who cant effort to pay for magic stones.
Increasing the number of repair powder for the same price.
Increasing drop rate or requiem marbles or create a quest to get them, it may help ppl than can't buy ms set or boss set, it also may help them to actually have a chance to kill a boss monster xD.
Consider to analyze the VIP bonuses, it actually give a big advantage to those players who already are over the average players. It's like "make stronger the strongest players" beside based on the amount of "donations" they do to be VIP I think they don't need those bonuses.
Make permanent the status of the accnt, it hurts when I got degraded to free and I can't use web compound.
Increasing the number of slots of key quest sets (Cabala set, Nora set, etc) even if these stay with the same stats, adding more slots may help a lot.
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Aran's edit (2014-08-10):

 

1. Increasing drop rates can crash the server (happened in Season 1). So this is something we will have to do very carefully, if we do it at all. (This is why we prefer not to tweak the game too much; game can become unplayable).

 

2. Repair powders will not change.

 

3. Requiem marbles ~ maintain method of getting it as is.

 

4. VIP bonus ~ it's the GM's discretion to reward donors to the game. 

 

5. Status of account in forum can be changed since mileage points are now transferable.

 

6. Web comp ~ another luxury enjoyed by donors; but really, anyone with mileage points can enjoy them now, donors & non-donors alike.

 

7. Town sets ~ GM Sky had done some changes to them before; we will leave those at that.


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I would like for the gms to bring back the poppuri event. :3 It was always my favorite time of the year, and I am sure it would encourage more non-donation players to join. 

 

As for myshop, I know gacha is not an option now, but some of my most loved equipment came from gacha. I would like to suggest taking those old sets from gacha town and selling them in "gacha boxes". Sort of like our character boxes, where you get one random item per box. That way people could be reunited with some of their favorite items.

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10):

 

1. Poppuri event ~ done.

 

2. Gacha ~ implemented now; more will come in the future.


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I think bringing back ice bears and Beatles would help people level up more and/or faster. 

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10):

 

1. The configuration of the maps/monsters is dependent on versions of game files. We happen to use the version which is earlier than the latest eTO files. Thus, these bears/beetles spawn configuration are not found in our maps. GM/Coder are not going to customised the maps because we don't want to cause bugs or cause other unforeseen problems to the game. 

 

2. Levelling up is not that difficult in this game since we already have 300x exp boost, plus Chaos Tower, plus fiesta. Just look at how many level 400 players we already have within 1 year of the server.


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"Consider to analyze the VIP bonuses, it actually give a big advantage to those players who already are over the average players. It's like "make stronger the strongest players" beside based on the amount of "donations" they do to be VIP I think they don't need those bonuses."

 

In your suggestions, please do not question the bonuses given to donors. Like I said, they are valuable.

Your ideas should relate to how to make game play for non-donors better; not how to lessen the perks given to donors.

 

May I remind everyone that, please, be positive in your input. Like I said in another thread, when you come across as negative or antagonistic, I will stop listening to you.


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As for myshop, I know gacha is not an option now, but some of my most loved equipment came from gacha. I would like to suggest taking those old sets from gacha town and selling them in "gacha boxes". Sort of like our character boxes, where you get one random item per box. That way people could be reunited with some of their favorite items.

 

This type of suggestion is very good.

 

However, please be more specific. For example, try to include pictures, correct names, and ggftw links of the items you are suggesting. That way, it is easier for GMs to find the relevant files (if they have it).


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The one thing I would really like to see is maybe an event or events where the bosses have a better chance of dropping uniques.  Perhaps like a weekly/bi-weekly/monthly event where the rate is increased for 2 or 3 hrs (since there is a cooldown on doing the trials).  Now I'm not asking for anything crazy with the drop rate, but just enough to make bossing a bit more enjoyable.   After all after 200+ kills and no uniques it kinda kills the motivation to boss hunt.  Not to mention uniques are one of the best ways for a non-donor to get some great equipment.

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10):

 

This will require setting & resetting the server. In the past, this has caused instability to the server. Probably will not do this.


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Change the sprite of all potions to Nutella <3

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Aran's edit (2014-08-10): Haha. Cool idea. Trademark infringement. No, we can't do it.


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1. Bring back the mines leveling spots. Remember back in eTO, people used to grind in gold beetles/mine mole/mine soldier/snow bears. The layout of the mines were different. They were also shorter for those who PQ'd.

2. Sell amethyst elixirs in myshop(no OP price), as of the moment they can only gotten via milage boxes which is pretty much a game breaker.

3. Bosses to drop boxes instead like back in old rTO. I think it was better back then. Or removal of trials but instead longer respawn time of boss monsters.

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10):

 

1. Already answered (scroll up above, please).

 

2. Amethyst elixirs have been free giveaways in several events now.

 

3. No.


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In game compounding costs a lot of galder for higher lvl equips (mainly ults.) Also drills cost a whole lot too (stage 4+)

I quest more often than grind to level so my galder savings doesnt get very high..I would rather not have to farm for hours/days just to find stuff to sell just to get enough galder for one slot on my ult. equip :( If gms could possibly drop the high galder requirement for compounds and possibly bring back some of the cheaper drills like they had before season 2 update i would be super happy ^.^

 

 

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1. Comp costs will remain the same; no change.

 

2. Cheaper drills have been put @ Gate of Black Swamp.



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More specifically, I would like for us to take the equipment sets from the old Gacha Towns and put them into boxes in myshop.

To give an example, one of the last sets available in Gacha was the Cletta Set. It contained: Little ClettaLittle Cletta SpearCletta HairclipCletta SpearCletta Arm WarmersCletta DressCletta DollNeredeith's Statue, and Volcano Mushroom Chair. We would take all of these items and put them into one box in myshop. Each box would contain a random item from the specified set, and we could do this with all of the old gacha town prize sets.

 

There are over 70 prize sets (which is far too much information to post here lol), so I have gathered some links that will lead you to a list of each of the town prize sets in order from newest to oldest:

 

Beginner Town Blooming Cora

Town 1 Megalopolis 

Town 2 Oops Warf

Town 3 Rose Garden

Town 4 Azteca

Special Town Tapasco

 

 

Aran's edit (2014-08-10): Gacha is now available in game. We will go through the sets in due time.


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